The org prefers compliant, uneducated followers since they are easier to hoodwink but not to be overlooked is the mental poverty of being a JW, wasting your life as a guilt ridden, good for nothing slave of the WTBTS.
Half banana
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Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.
by Balaamsass2 in"raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.
sounded good.. what is the reality?
how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.
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Been witnessing today - first time in over 2 years!!
by The Searcher inand it felt wonderful!!.
i went into the city to where i knew there was a "cosmopolitan witnessing" trolley, because i wanted to ask a simple bible-based question.
the trolley was attended by an elder and a sister who was another elder's wife.
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Half banana
Well done Searcher! your witnessing seemed to get the right response which is to break through the JW force field, you got them to think and even change perspective...( perhaps you saw it as witnessing for Jesus and not as unwitnessing?)
A JW is snug and smug in a kind of "locked-in" syndrome. For the individual it is very destabilizing and painful to contemplate opposing the cult teachings, it invites social rejection from community and family since culture conformity is the most powerful drive of human behaviour.
With the decline of d2d preaching, cart witnessing alongside TV evangelism, is the new push and this makes the carts a prime target for us. There used to be a lot in London, but in recent months they have not been present in my neck of the woods to allow me to unwitness there.
Have the GB realized what sitting ducks the cart people are, vulnerable to better informed ex-JWs?
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Biblical Scholar Claims The Story Of Jesus Christ Was A HOAX Designed To Control The People
by anointed1 inhere is something i found interesting:.
biblical scholar claims the story of jesus christ was a hoax designed to control the people.
http://simplecapacity.com/2016/10/biblical-scholar-claims-story-jesus-christ-hoax-designed-control-people/.
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Half banana
Posting attempts at interpretations of scholarly works on this site is fraught with difficulties because here is not the medium for precise thinking, logical examination and supply of textual evidence. We here can casually talk of “a hoax” as we think in our everyday language: yes religion or Jesus is a hoax...and that is the way it is.
But when it comes to trying to verify these thing at a deeper level, unless we have studied the subjects of first century Roman history at least at a masters degree level we are usually floundering (me especially). What is required is a profound knowledge of the whole subject including textual studies and Iron Age and Classical period literature, the power politics of the period, contemporary philosophy and religious beliefs and the very important history of both of them, ethnography and mythology and the social function of myth and even the subject of how we read and interpret the past---in order to be able to give a serious response.
Most of us don’t have the time and having been JWs have missed this opportunity in life to study at that depth. But fear not! Robert M Price, as Mephis directs us, has most of these requirements under his belt so to speak. What Price is debunking is the trope of Atwill describing all the known stories of the NT as a furtive joke, a nod to those in the know and a put-down of resurgent Jewish opposition to Rome for the sake of political compliance.
I usually find academics tied to religious institutions suspect in their allegiances and find Price reverent of the Bible text but not of the traditions of Christianity. However he does not think there is sufficient evidence to say that Jesus was a real person and finds a mythicist explanation for his presence in the gospels.
Atwill said that Jesus is, “the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources”. I agree with him and probably so would Robert M Price.
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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...
by freddo inwell how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
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Half banana
JW:
Come to our special meeting and be converted to a pathetic cult full of religious zombies who have given up thinking for themselves. But if you don't convert to our religion, then Big J will kill you and feed your corpse to the dickie birds at Armageddon.
Interested person:
What a lovely message, I would love to come!
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FOLLOWING/WALKING BEHIND
by somebody inaccording to this publication published by none other than those who want to gain followers of themselves, christ assigned the preaching work to themselves and not jehovah's witnesses.. *** w07 4/1 pp.
24-25 loyal to christ and his faithful slave ***.
giving loyal support.
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Half banana
They permanently trawl the scriptures to justify their role as world religious supremos. (God only loves the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and loathes the rest of mankind!)
Your quote is very apt Somebody "They will walk behind you in chains". The Bible recognizes slavery and so does the WTBTS.
Mann377 it's all about power and money, holding onto the reins of power, controlling the corporate bank accounts and the minds of eight million drones. And lo! the sacred words of the inerrant Bible with its mass of subject matter to cherry pick.
Wake up Watchtower can't you see how you look; a bunch of paranoid religious loonies.
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Do they know what 7.5 billion dead bodies look like?
by jambon1 inin their sick and twisted bubble that they live in, the jehovahs witnesses clearly have no idea about the logistical nightmare of disposing of 7.5 billion corpses.. when i heard an elder once say that it will be a joy to clear away the wicked from the earth, he actually had a smile on his face.. can they even begin to imagine what 7.5 billion dead men, women, children & babies looks like?.
"let the eye feel no sorrow".
sick bastards..
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Half banana
You make a good point Tor, all people, usually in late childhood come to realize that invisible germs are out to get you and perhaps JWs are institutionally snagged at this moment of development.
It is at an age when dependency on parents and authority figures remain in place and to the susceptible mind, learning about germs can be linked to an exaggerated sense of contamination.This notion of contamination has many religious manifestations (look at the absurdities of the Mosaic law). JWs are constantly exhorted by their task masters to stick together because of this same drive of fearful contamination of "the world".
No doubt to the JW mindset the idea of global "cleansing" of non believers seems the right answer to the contamination issue......forget that they are talking about the precious lives of 7.5 billion sentient, loving humans, who are reduced by JW thinking to mere dirty scum.
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Just curious - is apostasy grounds for divorce?
by LifesNotOver ini know only adultery is supposed to be grounds for "scriptural" divorce.
i'm a wicked apostate in their eyes, but my believing husband and i still can't get a divorce that would allow him to remarry.
we currently are separated - i have left him.
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Half banana
Fisherman you talk as if the Watchtower has authority over people... it only does if you let them. They are just religious quack doctors.
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Today's Text: Reject Apostacy!
by Divergent inmonday, october 10. renounce unrighteousness.—2 tim.
2:19.. god’s word gives specific advice concerning the types of unrighteousness that christians must renounce or reject.
for instance, in the immediate context of 2 timothy 2:19, we find that paul tells timothy “not to fight about words” and to “reject empty speeches.” (2 tim.
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Half banana
The joke is that as an organisation the JW org practices apostasy on a regular basis.
For example when its cardinal belief that “the generation which saw 1914 would also see the end of the system of things” was no longer credible, it had to change its belief...it fell away from or renounced that stupid belief: it became apostate to that doctrine.
Bunch of twits!
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Just curious - is apostasy grounds for divorce?
by LifesNotOver ini know only adultery is supposed to be grounds for "scriptural" divorce.
i'm a wicked apostate in their eyes, but my believing husband and i still can't get a divorce that would allow him to remarry.
we currently are separated - i have left him.
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Half banana
LNO, if you are no longer a JW (don't condemn yourself as an apostate which is their disparaging word) and you have left your husband who is a believer, why not just kiss the whole nonsense goodbye and let them stew in their own juice? Since when did JWs go out of their way to put the feelings for others before their dogma?
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The Writing Committee Needs Higher Education!!!
by The Searcher inwatchtower january 2017 - how was fire transported in ancient times?.
"the biblical account found at genesis 22:6 states that, in order to prepare to offer a sacrifice at a distant location, abraham "took the wood for the burnt offering and put it on his son isaac.
then he took in his hands the fire and the knife, and the two of them walked on together.
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Half banana
Heaven, you have shown what is my understanding of the transportation of fire in the remoter periods of human history. It is understood that a hollowed out section of tree trunk about 5 inches in diameter with a lid would suffice as a pot ---the wood being an insulator.The fungus apparently smoulders for a long period of time and with suitable kindling and blowing upon can be readily revived.
BUT................. Abraham and Isaac are just fictional characters..................................